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Specineff
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 Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:18 am Post subject: USB controllers on ME 1 PR7 |
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David. Not to complain or anything, since you must have your share of headaches already.
The issue when a direction remains pressed on D-pad for a second even after you are pressing another direction is still happening. Don't know about non-USB controllers. But for shooters, this is fatal. I had my derriere just handed back to me by Darius, a game I can easily clear on my Duo. I try to dodge a bullet, and my D pad refuses to move downwards, until I press forward again, and then press down. I don't know what to call this, controller lag, or more like "deafness".
I am 100% sure this didn't happen with version 99.
(And no, getting a gameport controller is not an option. Nor my mom's laptop or my new desktop have that option. Sadly, manufacturers are cutting gameports on new boards)
Thanks David. I know you can fix it. 
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Perfect timing!!
I fixed this problem like one hour ago. 
Yeah, all those gamepads problem gave me a few headaches, it's like a curse, every (big) new version of ME has gamepad problems.  But I'm happy of the current driver code, I will engrave it in stone and never touch it again from now on.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have this problem as well as a problem with my playstation pads connecting by USB to my pc. When I switch to digital imput (rather than using the anologue controller) and press left or right it shows a button press as well as axis recognition.
The system thinks I am pressing a fire button when I use the directional pad - when I switch to anolgue the problem goes away.
Another small point is vysync mode 2 - this works but when I exit out of magicengine and go back in the fps goto 30fps, only after switching it off and back on to vsync method 2 does the problem fix itself.
Apart from that a fantastic release -looking forward to the final release/ |
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Kaminari
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| dmichel wrote: | | I fixed this problem like one hour ago. |
I came. I saw. I cried.
| MagicAlec wrote: | | Another small point is vysync mode 2 - this works but when I exit out of magicengine and go back in the fps goto 30fps, only after switching it off and back on to vsync method 2 does the problem fix itself. |
Are you using an LCD monitor? I've noticed this very same problem on a friend's PC; the display would crawl to a grinding halt when enabling vsync=2. At first I thought the peculiar LCD refresh rate was at fault, but disabling then re-enabling vsync from the GUI did actually work. Quitting ME and relauching it, the framerate would crawl again  |
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MagicAlec
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Nope - bog-standard monitor.
75 refresh rate I think.
Not a big problem - but strange bug, |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Wow Specineff !
I TOO am having this same issue with Darius. I just came here to see if anyone posted already and was astonished we both found this issue on this game.
Cool beans.
Dave you are doing a great job at this upkeep. Love the new version, and cannot wait to see the final!
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dmichel
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| MagicAlec wrote: | Nope - bog-standard monitor.
75 refresh rate I think.
Not a big problem - but strange bug, |
I can't reproduce the problem here but I think I found what was wrong. When PR 8 will be out let me know if it's fixed.
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Specineff
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| jammaniaclord wrote: | Wow Specineff !
I TOO am having this same issue with Darius. I just came here to see if anyone posted already and was astonished we both found this issue on this game. |
Well, it's not only with this game, J-lord. Darius 2, R-Type, any game. It's just that since shooters require more precise and frequent adjustment of your direction, it's easier to find out than say, a turn-based RPG. But Dave said he's fixed it. Let's see how PR8 handles it.
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Specineff
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:10 am Post subject: |
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David, I just redownloaded PR 7, and the issue is still there. It happens only with the down direction. If this has not been corrected in this version yet, that's probably why, of course.
It occurs whenever I need to go down after moving up. It doesn't happen with the left and right directions. Uh, wouldn't be better to have a control mapping feature just like the one in v 99? You know, where you can map pretty much any direction/button to any direction or button on the pad?
Sorry if I'm being a pain, and thanks.
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Kaminari
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:45 am Post subject: |
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Specineff, you minsunderstood David. The fix is planned for PR8  |
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I misunderstood all right. Sowwy. 
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Specineff wrote: | | Uh, wouldn't be better to have a control mapping feature just like the one in v 99? You know, where you can map pretty much any direction/button to any direction or button on the pad? |
The problem was not in the gamepad code itself, it was in the PCE emulation, when the PCE was reading the gamepad state, stupid operators priority error, forgot some parenthesis in the code. 
Yes, the fix will be in PR 8. It should be out Monday if all goes well. At the moment I'm re-organizing the video driver to prepare it for DirectX and 16-bit support. 
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^^ I love you, David.
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16 bit support will that mean that full screen won't run in 32 bit color anymore. I run my desktop at 32 bit color.
I do also use vsync 2nd option and I have to deselet and select it to get full speed.
Direct X support will be great. I really don't like opengl because when I go to close full screen opengl programs they keep moving my open windows down. |
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| reddice wrote: | | 16 bit support will that mean that full screen won't run in 32 bit color anymore. I run my desktop at 32 bit color. |
16-bit support will be optional, 32-bit is still the default. And I think I will add two options, one to select 16/32-bit for the screen and another one for the textures.
| Quote: | | I do also use vsync 2nd option and I have to deselet and select it to get full speed. |
Should be fixed in PR 8.
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